been a lot of talk late this week about the fact that maybe the business is being taken out of the newtown disaster and massacre and that members, that this time the nra will be able to get its way because politicians are already backing down from passing strict gun control measures. >> whenever you talk about the competition, whenever you tack about second amendment it's a passionate issue on both sides. something some be -- should be done, however my thing you lost more people in chicago than the war in afghanistan in 2012. >> there have been over a thousand gun deaths we should say since newtown. >> yes. bottom line we need to come to the table, criminals don't to go gun shows and get guns. criminals don't register their guns. i see both sides of the argument here. >> criminals do to go gun shows to get guns, in fact be crazy not to because you can go in to a gun show and nobody -- just a moment. nobody will ask any questions. >> when you -- >> you cannot only get one gun you can get ten or 15 guns. we are going to have this back and forth. what we need to do is say look, what things do